Curse

Edgar The Crosseyed · Sep 05, 2007, 10:10 PM // 22:10

I dont see how a GW character immortalizes a piece of you? do you really think that in 50 years the gw servers still exist and you character will be there?

The only thing that makes you live on forever is making children and pass on your DNA in them..

Try to get some self esteem! and confidence!
Take the one thing you like about yourself and utilize it! And go do what you like the most or go strive to get what you like the most! be it loose weight or get real life friends! When there is a will there is a way!!!

You can't see me · Sep 05, 2007, 10:14 PM // 22:14

Alright.

This is strictly to the Original Poster. I have heavy doubts that I will get through to you, but I really hope I do, for your own sake.

I've read every single one of your replies, including the Original. I you have my deepest sympathy on your life. I'm not denying that it's not the best life you could ask for. Nor am I saying that your pecimist view is incorrect. Everyone has the right to thier own view and their on beliefs. But let me take a moment of time to share some wisdom with you.

You get out of life exactly what you see it to be. If you see your life as a horrid thing, only to get away from, it will only be as such until you see otherwise. Yes, you don't have it as well as some others. But you have what a lot of people don't. You have time.

At the age of twenty it's not too late. It's far from it. Life is only beginning. I know the world seems like a torn apart ahd horrid place. You have bills to pay. Tuition fees will flow in. The ambition is gone, replaced by a contempt for real life and everything in it. How do I know? I've been there and back again. The future seems grim because of the way the world is. There seems to be no hope for you in it.

But let me tell you something. Your real life body is worth a thousand pixalated characters. They never grow old because they are not real, which makes them so hollow. Whether your body is decaying or not, it has something that those cartoons will never have. It will have reality, and YOU have the ability to make it into whatever you wish. No, it won't last forever, but maybe that's not a bad thing. Imagine living forever, like those cartoons. Eternally trapped in a game. Never having the oppourtunity to feel love, or passion, or even the air on thier faces. They don't even know what makes the frost come out of thier mouth when they are in the shiverpeaks.

Real life might end, but that doesn't mean it's worthless. Online games are nice, you get to talk to people, and feel not as alone as you would normally, but you know what? Behind every cartoon is a real person, just like I'm a real person behind this text. And you're a real person behind yours. But they are not worth your immortality. They are part of the business world and it's competitveness to lure in new customers. The old, GW1, will die naturally, as all things do, for the sheer reason that nothing lasts forever. But guild wars or not, your immortality is of too much worth to be put into something as hollow as a video game.

All the experiences you've drawn out of it, you can draw ten fold from real life. All you have to do is give yourself a chance. Say "I can." He who says he cannot, never will. No, you may not slay a dragon or become a hero in real life, but let me tell you something. Even if you own an apartment that's falling apart, but you have at least one friend in the world, it's worth far far more than anything a video game will make you feel. You'll see. You don't have friends? All you have to do is put yourself out there and make some. It's not as hard as people say it is. Yes, you'll fail a lot, but when you suceesd, hundreds of failures are worth it. Find a career that you enjoy. Nothing captures your intrest?

Beta test things. The field for beta testing and game programming is widely growing. Instead of just playing the game, make them and test them before anyone else. That's bound to have more meaning. Go to a technical school for it. Take out a loan for it. Stop telling yourself it's not that easy. Never make things more complex and hopeless then they already are.

And you know what? Even if you fail, if you tried your best, that will be far more worth it when you die then having nothing but a video game.

No video game is worth your immortality. All games die eventaully, as does everything. Do not deny yourself real life. Do not deny your body hope that it can become more than it is. Do not deny to yourself that you have no hope. Do not deny yourself that you are unworthy of friends.

Do not deny life.

I hope this maybe just a little bit touched you. If it didn't, I hope to no end that you figure out the values of life for yourself, as some people have to do.

But whether or not you have hope is up to you, not up to your situation.

Never

Forget

That.

Lawnmower · Sep 05, 2007, 10:16 PM // 22:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by Edgar The Crosseyed

I dont see how a GW character immortalizes a piece of you? do you really think that in 50 years the gw servers still exist and you character will be there?

The only thing that makes you live on forever is making children and pass on your DNA in them..

Try to get some self esteem! and confidence!
Take the one thing you like about yourself and utilize it! And go do what you like the most or go strive to get what you like the most! be it loose weight or get real life friends! When there is a will there is a way!!!

Is there really such a thing about having a everlasting cool looking character?

I dont know. I know that its not likely, and until the end of time impossible, but its one of does things where I wish I was in deniel and truly believed that.. hey... my GW character is still there.

I wouldnt want anyone to play it or see it or use it. I just wanted it to be there. its not about proving anything. its the idea that... real life objects will get destroy over a few hundered years.

if gws characters would exisist on the internet by itself. then perhaps they would always be there.. but they will require a server, to come from? I still wish it was eternal.

Chicken Ftw · Sep 05, 2007, 10:18 PM // 22:18

I don't see an issue with temporary escapes from reality into GW. The big problem I see is saying there's no purpose in anything we do, since in the end we just die anyway. Yes, you will die. But until that day, you have the freedom to do whatever you want to, so why not use it? The fact that I'm gonna die someday and have no way of escaping it is precisely why I milk every drop of enjoyment out of the short life I was given.

There is always a point in living, and it doesn't wait to be found - you have to go out and find it yourself. Everyone has their own purpose in their life, and you can find one too... but not if you refuse to ever look for it. Sometimes, a reason to live is lost, but then you just need to find another. Finding these reasons generally takes time, but is always well worth it.

As far as depending on others goes... We all depend on others, in varying degrees of dependence. It's part of life. Don't fear it, accept it. We're all individuals, and struggle to be as independent as possible, but really, life's much easier when you have people you can rely on to be there for you in both the good times and the bad. These people also have to be found, like the reasons to live and enjoy life. Actually, some of these people might well become your reasons to live, and might be a lot closer than you think.

Yes, GW will end sometime in the future, we're all sure of that. Who knows though, you might find something you enjoy more than GW. The only way to find out, is to try other things.

[/jumbled ideas mostly caused from lack of sleep]

Servant of Kali · Sep 05, 2007, 10:25 PM // 22:25

(Thanks to mod for deleting the insanely sick post by Not_A_Real_Account psycho).

Just a quick question to OP - are you satisfied with who you are? I mean, your personality not your possessions?

Vinraith · Sep 05, 2007, 10:28 PM // 22:28

I, for one, don't have "virtual life." GW is a game I play, I tend to think of characters I create as improvable "pieces" in said game, not alter egos. As others have pointed out already, it sounds like the OP has far too much of his sense of self worth invested in a video game.

You can't see me · Sep 05, 2007, 10:28 PM // 22:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lawnmower

Is there really such a thing about having a everlasting cool looking character?

I dont know. I know that its not likely, and until the end of time impossible, but its one of does things where I wish I was in deniel and truly believed that.. hey... my GW character is still there.

I wouldnt want anyone to play it or see it or use it. I just wanted it to be there. its not about proving anything. its the idea that... real life objects will get destroy over a few hundered years.

if gws characters would exisist on the internet by itself. then perhaps they would always be there.. but they will require a server, to come from? I still wish it was eternal.

Do not wish that anything is eternal, for nothing is. Even though your character is not real, it does not escape reality, because it is generated by something that is.

You can only live real things to thier full potential. Guild Wars Severs will be shut down. The internet may be destroyed. Computers will become obsolete within 100 years.

Nothing that is computer generated escapes destruction. The newer things will over power it.

Nothing will ever over power your real life. Live your reality to it's fullest. Not your para-reality.

Don't want a volvo and a pickett fence? Get an Iron fence and a hummer.

Nemo the Capitalist · Sep 05, 2007, 10:38 PM // 22:38

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Originally Posted by Lawnmower

Even though virtual life is for many supposed to be an scape goat from real life, the horrifying truths and rules of real life seems to echo within the dark depths of cyberspace, where somewhere, my characters data is stored on servers that Anet can choose to close at any point, and thus ending my life.

A big fantasy for me, has always been the desire to have an online game, that will never die out. A game that will always be played and populated by other people. My flesh is erelic. I will eventually die, and maggots will feast on me... But my hopes was to that my characters would live on.

That dream has been shattered with GW. GW2 is on the way. Exactly how long is GW1 supposed to manage itself... I wanted my virtual character to be there forever. Alive.

Virtual characters are amazing. they dont have the turmoil and crappy things that sucks about real life. they dont decay. they dont physically age. they dont grow old, and are not left to die on a hospital bed with tubes in and out of their bodies while they look pathethic and helpless only being kept alive by a grey medical device that pumps air into your body, so you wont choke on the nutrition that is being entered into you from a feeding tube.

Im weak, fat and slobby and slow in real life. my virtual character is tall, beautiful and strong.

but now that character will die, and the world around it will die.

What some of you people dont seem to get, is that while the game might still have servers running, everyone will play GW2 instead! Just like with Diablo 1 and 2! When diablo 2 came out, Diablo 1 died.
And thats it...

Its over for guild wars. it was all for nothing. I wanted to live forever through my characters. I dont care if you think thats pathethic, because thats what I wanted to!

/amen.........

Lawnmower · Sep 05, 2007, 10:49 PM // 22:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by Servant of Kali

(Thanks to mod for deleting the insanely sick post by Not_A_Real_Account psycho).

Just a quick question to OP - are you satisfied with who you are? I mean, your personality not your possessions?

yes. thanks for it mods! You acted quickly.

As for your question mate - Yes, I think so.

I once beat obesity by just running at 2 AM at night every day of the week, on the side of the freeway with my Ipod. In some ways I am proud of that. But I will say that it goes up and down, but im relatively happy.

I know I may sound like a loser, but I really dont feel that way. I used too. But in the last 6 months or so I have started to feel better about myself. I think thats why I act cool about my weight problem. Because I know I can do it. I have done it before.

I play games. I watch tv shows. I laugh at comedies, I am interested in my work. My mother is alive and well, and I live in a country with alot of possibilities. I can go back and finish high school and take an education at any time I want. I can do night courses. the ball is still open. Except - I am dreaming of not having an average man day job with average man things.

And thats whats interesting about what your asking. yes. Im obsessed about technology. I recently got a 360 and a wii, even though I dont play them. I buy so many computer games... like 60 a year. I finish around 4 or 5! Its insane.
and i am constantly thinking about new computers, monitors, HD-TV 42' with plasma screen... new cell phone.. Iphone... Blu-ray... ps3... and more games, dvds, CDs and so on.

That has become a curse for me. thats why I said.. "its all about technology... in games these days". I feel its moving so fast and I got this mentallity: "oh crap. a new graphics card with DX10 support. I got to have this". I know I shouldnt because im 20 and still live and home.. and I should have saved up for a car and a drivers license or my own place.

I guess thats something that annoys me about myself.

but im able to laugh at myself and take it easy, and relax(like the mika song).

Maybe I am just going through a phase. Maybe I am just not experienced enough at life. I dont know. I never had self disipline... I was a free bird most of the time, so... Well that might be an excuse. I had a good childhood.

6am3 Fana71c · Sep 05, 2007, 10:52 PM // 22:52

Wait, what? OP only played this game for 350 hours in past 18 months? What a hell? I played it 2500 hours in last 15 months, but I don't really care if GW1 will die. It's game. Yeah, we invested a lot in it. Yeah it would be nice if it could last forever, but it won't. Just like us...
As for your concerns about life... I do understand you. It seems so pointless. But...ever watched Saw movies? I wonder, what would you do if you were tied to some killing machine with timer set to 1 minute... I bet you would struggle to survive. Like we all would. There is always things to live for. Or to put it diffrent, there is always reason not to die. Wheter it is just to have one more bite of chocolate (lol), one good sex, or to sell everything you have and go for trip around the world...

Lawnmower · Sep 05, 2007, 11:02 PM // 23:02

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Originally Posted by 6am3 Fana71c

Wait, what? OP only played this game for 350 hours in past 18 months? What a hell? I played it 2500 hours in last 15 months, but I don't really care if GW1 will die. It's game. Yeah, we invested a lot in it. Yeah it would be nice if it could last forever, but it won't. Just like us...
As for your concerns about life... I do understand you. It seems so pointless. But...ever watched Saw movies? I wonder, what would you do if you were tied to some killing machine with timer set to 1 minute... I bet you would struggle to survive. Like we all would. There is always things to live for. Or to put it diffrent, there is always reason not to die. Wheter it is just to have one more bite of chocolate (lol), one good sex, or to sell everything you have and go for trip around the world...

I have seen SAW1, and I loved it. I loved the twist at the end. And you are right.

The reason why I said; "I envy does people who could die in a big war like ww2".

I mean... Imagine being an American soldier or a british soldier. Never since has there been such a clear white and black example of good and bad, right and wrong. Does soldiers knew that they would die, to save the entire world from enslavement.
I wonder if does people felt alive?

And while we are speaking of movies... I saw Collateral last night, right after I made this thread. I had seen it before, but I didnt like it as much as some of Michael Mann's others like Last of the Mohicans and HEAT! But I saw it yesterday and I simply was so impressed by it.

Tom Cruise plays an assassin... And in the movie he is so.. He is so tight and fast and content with things. He is this guy who seems like the most extreme idealist or realist(?), and a guy who seems to have everything in control. he seems like someone who is not bound by his emotions. he just kills to get the job done. because it serves his need. like a animal kills because it serves its need(mostly for food.. or protection of off spring or territory).

and the things he says... "Now we gotta make the best of it, improvise, adapt to the environment, Darwin, shit happens, I Ching, whatever man, we gotta roll with it. " and "There's no good reason, there's no bad reason to live or to die. "

"Max: First time in L.A.?
Vincent: No. Tell you the truth, whenever I'm here I can't wait to leave. It's too sprawled out, disconnected. You know? That's me. You like it?
Max: It's my home.
Vincent: 17 million people. This is got to be the fifth biggest economy in the world and nobody knows each other. I read about this guy who gets on the MTA here, dies.
Max: Oh.
Vincent: Six hours he's riding the subway before anybody notices his corpse doing laps around L.A., people on and off sitting next to him. Nobody notices. "

I just love Tom Cruise's character(Vincent). I usually hate these type of movies where the directors tries to make the bad guy, the anti-protagonist, and I hate it, when the anti-protagonist tries to come up with ideas why its okay to kill someone.

Nemo the Capitalist · Sep 05, 2007, 11:11 PM // 23:11

since when did this become a social forum?

Monk Solaris · Sep 05, 2007, 11:11 PM // 23:11

The OP makes a good point. One of the main selling points to a online game is to play it for a long time to build up slowly to keep interest but knowing the sequel will replace all that investment in time and energy it is a downer.

This is just regarding guildwars. Anet wants us to devote huge amounts of in game play time to max out titles for unknown rewards in GW2.

Good idea or ....

Nemo the Capitalist · Sep 05, 2007, 11:13 PM // 23:13

bad idea gw 1 be btter thna gw 2 just a gut feeling '

we dont like instanced areas etc dont want a WoW

Juicey Shake · Sep 05, 2007, 11:21 PM // 23:21

sad that technology has allowed for people to think like this

Silly Warrior · Sep 06, 2007, 12:10 AM // 00:10

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Originally Posted by arcanemacabre

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Of course, we can all hope that by then, we've moved on to other planets, along with a starship designed to carry Anet's servers just for you, lawnmower

I just laughed so hard. Oh my god.

Starship Anet: Serving your virtual foreverness since 2007

Tomcat01 · Sep 06, 2007, 02:30 PM // 14:30

I think about gw again after quitting and casually browse this forum before bed for some comic relief and found this, i almost feel like being harsh to you but you know.. sooner or later just maybe someone will help you out of cyberspace. seek love, and there you shall find life.

roffles

Zorgy · Sep 06, 2007, 07:37 PM // 19:37

"...In RL I already feel old. I am 20 years old. physically wise its just gonna go downhill from here. the 18 year olds will probably be stronger than me now. my body is decaying. life is starting to be more about bills and ambitions and different schools of thought that I have, is being killed by man's ideology of what life is about - be a drone in drone city, worship drone gods, do repetitive work to make drone currency - to be a drone consumer and buy Ikea furniture to make the drone economy stable, and make sure that drone world continues forever, so we all can live in our little pond of what life is about..."

"...I am afraid. Thats what I think my biggest problem is. I am afraid of becoming old and dependant on others. I think thats what I am trying to escape in GW...."

"...So thats it. I have made threads about it before. why buy and play GWEN.. why bother playing GW anymore when it was all for nothing? when the time.. that cant get returned to you, was wasted on character development that would relatively soon get smashed away...."

"...Why clean your house when it will be unclean, why upgrade your computer when it will get outdated, why buy the latest WoW expansion when they will just make another one and make you grind 10 more levels again..."

"...WHY? Is why the problem? Is asking the real problem?..."

To the OP: Please read again the a/m sentences which have been produced by your own neuronal system.

You convey the existentialism message:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Existentialism

Albert Camus, a french existentialist philosopher used to say that " the MAIN genuine philosophical concept was SUICIDE "

So now....its up to you. If you decide to stay among us....dont be masochist & self destructive cause its no way...be positive, think positive, act in a positive way.

"...I am afraid. Thats what I think my biggest problem is. I am afraid of becoming old and dependant on others. I think thats what I am trying to escape in GW...."

"...Kierkegaard saw rationality as a mechanism humans use to counter their existential anxiety, their fear of being in the world. "If I can believe that I am rational and everyone else is rational then I have nothing to fear and no reason to feel anxious about being free."..."

You are not alone dude, we all have to face the same fear. According to Boudhism - which is not a religion but a philosophy - we have to get rid off this feeling. It is an everydays fight. Enlight yourself, enlight your spirit/soul.

And take it easy, accept yourself as you are. try to improve yourself cause you deserve it. You are 20 man come on, move your fatass

Keep on reading books, which are the best food for the mind

Again I give you the link of Henri Michaux quotes. this is a brilliant poet.

http://www.littlebluelight.com/lblph...es.php?ikey=19

" While circulating through my accursed body, I came to a region where the parts of myself were few and far between; to live there, you had to be a saint. In times gone by, I had aspired to sainthood, but now that illness was forcing me into it, I struggled against it and I still struggle, and it’s obvious that I’m not going to survive like this. If I had been given the opportunity, fine! but to be forced into it - no, I just can’t stand it." - A Saint - Night Moves -

GW is an awesome game, I praise the devs for their creativity & their global game philosophy, I will buy GW² & I hope to be able to play GW when I am 99.......

Who knows ???? Maybe you will transmit your characters to your daughter or your son.....who will then transmit them to their kids...etc...ALL IS POSSIBLE....just make it happen.

Good game, have fun & keep on truckin

Nevin · Sep 06, 2007, 08:12 PM // 20:12

Haha...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNF_P281Uu4 = The World

Try to enjoy it.

Zorgy · Sep 06, 2007, 08:29 PM // 20:29

Enjoy that one tooooooooooooooooooooooooo

http://www.dailymotion.com/relevance...t-you-is_music